Random musings on whatever subject strikes my fancy, published every other day.

Mass Shootings in 2015

So far in the US, in 2015: 353 mass shootings (as of the 337th day of the year).  462 dead.  1,312 injured.  All stats derived directly from Mass Shooting Tracker.  (Why do we even have a site called Mass Shooting Tracker?)

I am going to drop firmly into opinion mode and say bluntly:  The assertions of the gun-nutter set — that citizens are defending themselves against crimes at a rate that somehow justifies all this carnage — are blatantly false, whether or not that is intentional on the part of any given speaker.  In other words, I don’t consider that everyone who repeats lies is a liar.  Some are just dupes.

But lies are controlling our policy about guns.


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  1. You say claims of self-defense are blatantly false, but don’t back up the assertion with data. I’m not disagreeing with you. It does _sound_ like bunk, but without data to show it as such, not sure the argument is terribly convincing.

    • David Frier

      I actually made a run at this a couple years ago in some thread. The numbers are very hard to come by. But I was able to find some and the annual rate for the US was in the mid-three digits. So, off by a factor of about 80 from the murder/accident/suicide rate which runs in the area of 30K annual. Still, even those 450-500 reports are hard to credit because the definitions are pretty fluid.

      When I mentioned it on-thread, the gun advocate replied that the number was so low because it did not count the times a criminal did NOTHING, for fear that law-abiding people nearby might be armed.

    • David Frier

      I should also point out that what is false is not that anyone ever successfully defends themselves with a gun, against a criminal.

      What is blatantly false is that this happens often enough to justify the 30K deaths per year facilitated by the presence in so many households of so many guns.

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